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  • 01:11
     
    #alternative sense making networks   
    we've arrived at a place in history where the sense making apparatus that usually helps us figure out what to think about things has obviously begun to come apart the political parties the the universities journalism all of these things have stopped making sense an alternative sense making networks have begun to rise
  • 04:19
     
    #Sam Harris steelmanning Jordan Peterson's points   
    clearly I don't understand how valuable stories are how deep they go the degree to which stories encode not only the wisdom of our ancestors but quite possibly the wisdom born of the hard knocks of evolution of the species right Sam Harris steelmanning Jordan Peterson's points
  • 07:53
     
    #scientific method   
    if you ever want to think about something that's exactly what you have to do right you want to take arguments that are against your perspective and you want to make them as strong as you possibly can so that you can fortify your arguments against them you don't want to make them weak because that just makes you weak and so you know Sam and I are both scientists scientific method
  • 09:12
     
    #Jordan Peterson steelmanning Sam Harris's points   
    Sam believes that there are two fundamental dangers to psychological and social stability religious fundamentalism essentially on the right and moral relativism and nihilism on the left and so the danger of the right wing position is that it enables people to arbitrarily establish certain revealed axioms as indisputable truths Jordan Peterson steelmanning Sam Harris's points
  • 20:25
     
    #sacrifices   
    anthropologists worldwide is that human beings tend to make sacrifices so I'm gonna spend two minutes three minutes laying out a sacrificial story and the reason I want to do it is because see what I think happened with regards to the origin of these profound stories is that people first started to behave in certain ways that had survival significance and that was selected for
  • 22:40
     
    #circumcision is a surrogate for sacrifice   
    circumcision is a surrogate for the far more barbaric act of human sacrifice and you know it answers every test you would put to it with respect to its archetypal significance circumcision is a surrogate for sacrifice
  • 30:49
     
    #Christian human sacrifice   
    Christianity is actually a cult of human sacrifice Christianity is not a religion that repudiates human sacrifice Christian human sacrifice
  • 35:13
     
    #Christian child sacrifice   
    [Christianity] described one child who is sacrificed for everybody else but arguably that's an upgrade of some metaphorical truth that frees those who are adhering to this tradition from ever considering sacrificing a child and what it does is Christian child sacrifice
  • 38:55
     
    #necessity of child sacrifice   
    what otherwise play with how often do you think it was necessary for people in the past who had absolutely no access to birth control and who didn't have enough food to sacrifice a child for the survival of their family necessity of child sacrifice
  • 40:05
     
    #Aztec sacrifices   
    is the sacrificing of you know captive so you take the Aztec sacrifices where you you know you now have slaves some of whom you're going to Aztec sacrificed about twenty five thousand people a year
  • 52:13
     
    #dogmatism is a bug and a feature   
    you've argued that the dogmatism is a bug and not a feature you've argue no it's a bug and a feature okay it's a bug and a feature dogmatism is a bug and a feature
  • 56:30
     
    #value not derived from facts   
    idea that we should ground values in facts is wrong I'm not going to make that claim although I think it's way more complicated than we've opened up so far but I would say is I can I think relatively easily demonstrate a value not derived from facts
  • 59:30
     
    #post modernists   
    of what the post modernists have done is that they've pushed away the domain of facts entirely and they say well the only thing is is that the only thing that actually exists is that this domain of interest subjective agreement
  • 01:09:08
     
    #universal ethic    #universal ethic    #Middle East   
    your claim was that if the Christians and the Jews and the Muslims would just stop their stupidity and adopt this universal ethic then everything would be okay it's like okay what's the basis for the universal ethic Middle East
  • 01:12:59
     
    #naturalistic fallacy    #naturalistic fallacy   
    naturalistic fallacy which is to say so for those who don't know the naturalistic fallacy says that just because something is doesn't mean it ought
  • 01:32:51
     
    #bifurcated brain    #bifurcated brain   
    there's a problem that we have a bifurcated brain the question is well why do we have a bifurcated brain and the answer seemed and not just us animals - the answer seems to be well there's two necessary ways of looking at the world and they have to be in conflict to some degree in order to work properly
  • 01:36:24
     
    #Charles Whitman    #physiological causes of shootings   
    just like Charles Whitman with his brain tumor after he shot up everyone at the University of Texas physiological causes of shootings
  • 02:04:15
     
    #Pascal's wager   
    I mean that's that's why Pascal's wager never made any sense. You can't say the only way you can believe something to be true really true not just metaphorically true is to believe that if it weren't true you wouldn't believe it they you stand at some relationship to its truth
  • 02:07:33
     
    #Jordan Peterson's closing summary   
    Jordan Peterson's closing summary
  • 02:09:49
     
    #Sam Harris' closing summary   
    Sam Harris' closing summary

Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 2

Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 2 Moderated by Bret Weinstein 06/24/2018 This is the second time Sam & Jordan appeared live together on stage. This event took place at the Orpheum Theatre in Vancouver BC Canada on June 24th 2018 in front of a sold out audience of 3000 people. The event was produced by Pangburn Philosophy. No copyright infringement will be tolerated.






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